Butiran Baru: New Points

1. Noun/Verb potential in words like jalan (walk/road) is common in English

Read:

I want to read your paper.

Can I have a read of your paper?

 

Scroll

A scroll was conferred to him.

I can’t scroll up or down because the mouse is faulty.

 

What is the difference in these two sentences

A. Ada banyak pokok tinggi di Fakulti Kejuruteraan

B. Ada banyak pokok yang tinggi di Fakulti Kejuruteraan

 

A informs that all the  trees at the Eng. faculty are tall.

B identifies some of the tall trees at the Eng. faculty.

 

What is the difference between Hanya sedikit and Sedikit sahaja

 

Hanya sedikit = just a little

sedikit sahaja = a little only

 

A. Wang saya hanya sedikit  vs. B.  Wang saya sedikit sahaja

      My money is just a little     vs.      My money is  a little only

 

Both are interchangeable

However the popular usage found in the media is to double emphasize by using both hanya and sahaja

 

Hanya sedikit sahaja (which is redundant yet typical in a polite culture of emphasizing extensively)

Acceptable in oral; please keep to either hanya sedikit or sedikit sahaja in written.

 

terima kasih

Selamat Datang ke Bahasa Melayu 2

Terima kasih kerana telah datang ke kelas

Kita telah belajar banyak perkara pada hari Selasa:

“Siapa nama awak?”

“Hanya sedikit”

“Sedikit sahaja”

Ami, banyakkah wang anda di dalam bank?

Tidak, hanya sedikit.

Ibu, berapakah garam untuk kari ayam ini?

Oh bubuh (put) sedikit sahaja sudah cukup (enough).

The following is the lyric ready made, I apologize for some of the images but hope to make use of the wording and acoustic quality:

A translation of the lyrics is available at:

http://malayjournal1.wordpress.com/2011/11/01/pastikan-confirmed/

Terima kasih

New Questions Today : Soalan Baru Hari ini

1) In the lecture on writing skills, the slide on malay informal letter, the starting part : menemui sahabatku…..

when writing letter do we write as menemui sahatbatku, then go on to 1st paragraph and write Roweena yang dihormati….. OR

we start of with the menemui sahabatku , roweena yang dihormati, semoga sihat………………. on the 1st paragraph

The second one is the correct way if you are writing the greeting for a letter.

 

2) pandangan (general view/opinion) while kacamataan [sic] (your personal view)? Yes

Pandangan guru saya sangat baik (My teacher’s view is very good)

Dari kaca mata ibu bapa, permainan komputer adalah tidak baik.

(In the parents’ opinion, computer games are not good).

 

3) Petik (pluck) – pluck flowers? Yes

 

4) Menduduki – occupy or occupation

Askar-askar Jerman menduduki kawasan itu dalam masa dua jam.

The German soldiers occupied that area in two hours’ time.

 

5)Pemerintah à govt/ruler [depending on the political system]

PAP pemerintah Singapura selepas parti ini memenangi pilihan raya

Sultan Muzafar itu pemerintah negeri Melaka pada kurun ke-15.

6) Orang –orang à scarecrow or many people(so depends on context)?

The first meaning is scarecrow and it may be contextualize to refer to people.

 

7)Sehelai – classifier for kertas or sekeping is better?

Sehelai refer to the piece by piece quality of the paper

Sekeping refers to the sheet quality of the paper

8) Menghantar(sent someone ) while mengirim (sent letter / regards) ?

Saya menghantar bapa ke stesyen keretapi [I sent father to the train station]

Saya mengirim surat itu ke negara Belanda. [I sent the letter to Holland]

Tolong kirim salam saya kepada ibu anda. [Please send my regards to your mother]

 

Soalan Baru dari Semalam Fresh Questions from last night

What is dituduh?

being accused of

 

What is mendering?

 

berputar-belit or berjela-jela depending at the context

at level 2 it would be berulang-ulang

 

When to use ‘ke-an’ and ‘pe-an’?

normally ke-  -an makes adjectives a noun

pe-  -an makes a verb a noun

more abstract nouns are converted by pe-…-an

 

What context can ‘lalu la’ be used for?

lalu is past as in last (week) or passing by berlalu (Bukan Cinta Biasa)

berlalulah would be more for the second meaning

What is ayam tambatan?

the pride of the tribe  or the hopeful that will bring victory

think of the fighting cock of in the competition.

 

What is ajak-ajak ayam?

asking by ritual of politeness hence not really intending to invite

 

What is ‘giat’?

active although we may use aktif

 

What is ‘membantas’?

there is no bantas but there is bantah which is protest

membantah = protest or disagree

Mereka membantah kenaikan harga petrol.

They protested to the hike of the petrol price.

 

What is bunga telur?

the egg-filled souvenir from a Malay wedding

 

What is tumbang?

fall down or collapse

 

I learnt 2 more classifiers during the reading week:

They are sebilah keris and seutas rantai.

Good on you; vaguely I recall that utas is mentioned in the class

terima kasih

selamat belajar

Soalan Pelajar

Selamat pagi cikgu,

1)      Both perayaan and sambutan refer to celebration ? [in ms 29]

Perayaan is a celebration whereas sambutan is the celebration of:

Perayaan Thaipusam sangat meriah di Batu Caves [The Thaipusam celebration is very grand at Batu Caves]

Sambutan Hari Krismas sangat meriah di Jalan Orchard. [The celebration of Christmas is very grand at Orchard Rd]

 

2)      Pokok yang rendang => shady tree? Yes a tree with many leafy branches

Mereka bermain kejar-kejar [chasing around] di bawah pokok yang rendang itu.

 

3)      To make passive sentence , can i say that if there is a locative marker in use eg. Di naiki , then i don’t have to use oleh?

No, locative markers locate a place.

When oleh is inserted, we are looking at the person as part of the passive action

when it is without oleh we are looking at the passive action unfolding by itself.

Kereta yang baru itu diketuk dengan sebatang besi {the new car was hit with a rod]

Kereta yang baru itu diketuk dengan sebatang besi oleh Ali. [the new car was hit with a rod by Ali]

 

4)      Rakyat = citizen while penduduk = residents ?Hence penduduk Singapura = residents of Singapore

 Yes

5)      Berintikan = contain / content? (in the eg. Berintikan kunig telur asin)

Yes but in the context of our example is filling

Hence Kuih Bulan berintikan kuning telur asin = Mooncake with salted egg yoke filling.

Soalan Pelajar

Selamat tengah hari

 

1)      Cikgu i know that beberapa refers to a few. So what if i want to say some? Beberapa or banyak or sedikit depending on the context

 

Ada beberapa orang di situ

Ada banyak pasir di dalam bilik.

Ada sedikit darah di atas lantai

 

2)      Itu keseronokan (this is exciting) ?

 

Mereka keseronokan mendengar lagu Bukan Cinta biasa

They became excited while listening to Bukan Cinta Biasa.

It may be exciting in a different context.

 

3)      Kehadapan (To –when starting a letter)? So this can be applied for informal or both formal and informal?

 

Kehadapan is a polite form of opening an informal letter

It has a limited usage for letter writing.

We don’t say it in formal or informal conversation

 

4)      Peacock = merak .But it was used in our letter in ms38 as burung merak . So wat is the general form if i just want to say i saw a peacock in the beach?

 

Saya nampak seekor burung merak di pantai

 

5)      Kedua –dua , must it be written together or separated?

 

Together

 

6)      What ali likes to do most is (Ali paling suka …..) ?

 

Yes or Ali paling gemar makan ayam goreng

 

7)      Each of them have their own interests( Se seorangnya ada pesukaaannya)?

 

Setiap satu daripada mereka mempunyai kegemaran masing-masing

 

8)      When using sama______ dengan, is the following correct , rupanya sama masam dengan cuka ?

 

I would saya rupanya masam seperti cuka

certain expressions have  been determined culturally e.g. kick the bucket

 

9)      Yang di dalam= in which à in the sentence dia fikirkan satu permainan yang di dalam dia mahu memekik …..

 

Yes according to the writer’s command of Malay,

I would say,  Dia memikirkan satu permainan yang membolehkannya menjerit ‘Serigala, serigala…

He thought of a game which allows him to shout ‘Wolf! Wolf”

 

10)  Mereka pun ( They also  or they hence ?) in the sentence : apabila orang kampong mendengar , mereka pun berlari untuk menolong budak itu .

 

They hence…

 

11)  Pun=also , pula=also , so wats the difference?

 

Pun is a consequent of

 

Fatimah pun pengsan apabila ternampak tiga ekor tikus di atas mejanya

 

12)  Kepadanya= towards [him or her]

 

13)  For the sentence:  walaupun orang kampong tidak datang , nasibnya baik , ada seornag tua dating. Is the double commas correct ? cause it was not in the course pack

 

Yes the second comma may be replaced with kerana

 

14)  Sejenis hidangan (a type of food served)? But there is no makanan in the phrase.

 

Hidangan means food like sarapan

Must the word food appear in supper, breakfast, buffet or lunch in English?